3389 Sgt B. Irwin, shot down/Pow 17 Sep 16
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I have a copy of this man’s AIR79 but am wondering if anyone can tell me when Irwin joined 23 Squadron, or anything else about his service in France up to 17 Sep 16 (apart from the meagre details on the AIR79).TIA, Errol
Hi Errol,
Not much to add I’m afraid.
I’m not convinced the information on his service record that was extracted from his casualty card is correct…
I have AIR1 records that cover most of the 1915 period, and records that should correspond with the service record, but they don’t.
This is what I have found: –3389, 2/A.M. Irwin, B. Part of a Draft held in readiness for departure overseas, which was ordered to report to Embarking Southampton by 10p.m. on 6 March 1915, to proceed overseas for duty with the Expeditionary Force (AIR1/1307/204/11/196 鈥?R.F.C. Other Ranks Overseas Drafts, Feb. 鈥?Oct. 1915)
3389, 2/A.M. Irwin, B. Posted to Headquarters 9 March 1915 (AIR1/2146/209/3/126: Weekly compilations from R.F.C. Daily Orders Part II.)
3389, 2/A.M. Irwin, B. H.Q. 3 Wing, Admitted to Hospital 11 April 1915 (AIR1/2146/209/3/126: Weekly compilations from R.F.C. Daily Orders Part II.)
3389, 2/A.M. Irwin, B. Posted to Home Establishment 24 February 1916 (AIR1/1303/204/11/171 鈥?Fortnightly Casualty Returns, All Ranks R.F.C., Feb. 1915 鈥?Nov. 1916.)
Hello robert,
This is what I’ve been able to put together from the AIR79 and its casualty card info, and your AIR1 findings:Enlisted with RFC (RAF from 1 Apr 18) as 3389 Air Mechanic 2nd Class (for 4 years with the colours and 4 years on the Reserve), 29 Jan 15
Most postings prior 鈥楻ejoined 1 RAS鈥?mid-1915 are unknown
Served in France, 6 Mar 鈥?20 May 15
# Ordered to report at Southampton by 10 pm for embarkation for France, 6 Mar 15
# To RFC HQ, 9 Mar 15
# Admitted to Hospital, 11 Apr 15
*Admitted to, transferred to, or reported at, 14 General Hospital, Wimereux, 3 May 15 (Convalescence scarlet fever)
Not in France 21 May 鈥?9 Dec 15, according to AIR79
*鈥楾o England. Adm RCH [RCH = Red Cross Hospital]. Torquay鈥? (date of arrival or date of report) 26 May 15 (鈥榮ick slt鈥?
*鈥楩urlough to 7 6/15鈥? 31 May 15 (from this date or date of report?)
*鈥楻ejoined 1RAS鈥? 7 Jun 15 (rejoined from this date or date of report?)
Served in France 10 Dec 15 to 28 Feb 16 (AIR79)
# To Home Establishment, 24 Feb 16
Embarked for England (for pilot training?), 28 Feb 16 (28th being last day of second tour of duty in France, according to AIR79)
(* These entries from 鈥楨xtract from War Casualty Card and M.H.S.鈥?on AIR79)
(# These entries from Hugh Pugh鈥檚 research of AIR1 files)
Pilot, First Class, 21 Jun 16 (unknown which unit he trained with or when joined same)
Sergeant, 8 Jul 16
To France
To 23 Squadron (FE.2b), Le Hameau (since 18 Mar 16) (moved to Fienvillers, 1 Sep; Vert Galand, 5 Sep), c. Jul 鈥?Sep 16
Shot down/PoW, 17 Sep 16AIR1 routine order files, etc for 1915 have not all survived?
Cheers,
Errol
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